Random Thoughts On Milwaukee

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There is a good chance that yesterday’s race at the Milwaukee Mile may be the last IndyCar race there for the foreseeable future. If that’s the case, it went out in style. I’m not a racer, but the Milwaukee Mile appears to be the track that separates the men from the boys (or women from the girls). A one-mile flat-banked paperclip track with a car capable of doing 240 on a long straightaway is a tough assignment. This is old-school racing, where the job is taken out of the hands of the engineers and put back in the hands of the drivers. Yesterday did not disappoint.

For the first half of the race, it looked like Josef Newgarden was the class of the field. But this is a track where experience matters – not only with drivers, but teams. CFH Racing continued to lose spots for Newgarden on every pit stop. On the last two stops, Newgarden came out four positions and two positions respectively from when he pitted. That’s six spots he lost on two stops. Newgarden finished fifth. It makes you wonder where he would have finished had they just sent him out in the same position when he pitted.

It may be a moot point, however. I’m not sure anyone was going to catch eventual race winner, Sébastien Bourdais. The four-time Champ Car champion started eleventh and did not garner a lot of attention in the first couple of stints. I never considered him a threat in the first half of the race. But when he did not pit during a caution and assumed the lead, everyone started paying attention. He was on a different pit strategy from everyone else. When he finally pitted and then surged back into the lead after only sixteen laps, it became obvious how dialed in he was and that everyone else was probably battling for second – unless a yellow came out.

That yellow did come and it made the restart interesting for a few laps, but Bourdais pulled away from everyone – including Newgarden, who ultimately finished fifth.

It was an impressive drive, especially for someone who is not really known for their oval prowess. But it was one of many compelling stories throughout the day.

As impressive as Bourdais was yesterday, I didn’t think his drive was the most impressive. That honor belonged to Helio Castroneves, whose car inexplicably failed to be presented for qualifying before the deadline. Such a gaffe would be inexcusable for any team, but when it’s Team Penske that makes such a blunder – it’s mind-boggling. The result was that Helio was not allowed to qualify. Instead, he started dead last – in twenty-fourth place. He summarily worked his way up through the field. It took him all day, but he finished second and at one point, it looked as if he might catch Bourdais after the final restart. It was not to be. No one was catching the Frenchman from Le Mans yesterday. Still; to go from last to second on a day when everyone said passing was at a premium, was quite an impressive feat.

The race didn’t feature the five-wide side-by side racing we saw at Fontana, but this track doesn’t lend itself to that type racing. But it was an excellent race, and the cream eventually found its way to the top, displacing all of the pretenders along the way.

The crowd looked better than I was expecting. The top half of the main stands along the straightaway looked practically full, with some spillover into the lower half. I’m not good at measuring such things, but I’d probably put the crowd at around twenty thousand.

Is that enough to convince race promoter Michael Andretti to bring it back? Who knows? My heart says yes, but my mind says I don’t know.

I am hoping against hope that this race returns in 2016. I also would like to see a multi-year deal worked out where there was some continuity and we would not be having this discussion on an annual basis. If it does come back, the powers-that-be need to find a date and stick to it. Jumping around the calendar isn’t good for anyone. There’s a lot to be said about date equity. This event needs it in the worst way.

But that discussion is for another day. Yesterday was another good oval race – the second in a row. Seeing Bourdais seemingly come out of nowhere and run away with the race in the second half earned Bourdais a lot of respect in my eyes. He drove a race at Milwaukee that would make AJ Foyt or Parnelli Jones proud. That says a lot.

TV Coverage: Yesterday was not a shining moment for NBCSN. Let’s start with the audio. From just after the first pit stop to around Lap 175, the microphones of anyone talking kept dropping out about every three seconds, for about half a second – just enough to drive you crazy. Most of the time, you could figure out what was being said, but sometimes you couldn’t. It was quite nerve-wracking. It got so bad at one point that I considered muting the television and just watching. But I never did that.

What was so frustrating was that not all of the audio cut out. You could still hear the sounds of the cars. It was just all of the talking heads that kept going in and out sporadically.

It finally cleared up and had been fixed for about ten minutes, when Leigh Diffey finally acknowledged the problem and reassured us that they were working to fix it.

That was not the only problem. I think four voices in the same booth is too much – I don’t care who they belong to. While I really appreciate the Formula One trio of Diffey, Steve Matchett and David Hobbs – that chemistry doesn’t always carry over when adding other personalities into the mix. I thought Diffey, Matchett and Paul Tracy were excellent together two weeks ago at Fontana. But adding Townsend Bell to the mix and substituting Hobbs for Matchett didn’t work.

While Hobbs is great on the F1 broadcasts, he seems clearly out of his element for IndyCar. In short, Matchett does his homework and shows up clearly prepared to sit in the booth for an IndyCar race. Hobbs gives the impression all he has to do is show up, mumble a lot and let loose with a couple of one-liners. Hobbs also needs to figure out that Helio’s last name is pronounced with four syllables; Cas-tro-nev-es. He continues to pronounce it as Cas-tro-nevz. Hobbs never offered anything of substance yesterday. He just agreed with whatever someone else said and brought nothing to the table.

Hobbs lives in Milwaukee, so I guess they save travel money. But not having David Hobbs on the broadcast would clearly have been addition by subtraction. This was definitely a case of less is more.

Katie Hargitt was in only her second race as an IndyCar pit reporter. It showed. I like her personality, she majored in journalism and she has a racing background – so she is obviously qualified. But she needs to get past the jitters. Her in-race interview with Jimmy Vasser was an embarrassment. She’s young and needs experience. She obviously needs to learn on the job. I just hope she cuts her teeth for the rest of this season and can sound more like a seasoned pro by next season.

On the bright side – Paul Tracy and Townsend Bell seemed to have dropped most of their point/counterpoint banter that had grown old. They seemed more focused on explaining the nuances of the race than trying to present a comedy act.

Where is Ed? When CFH Racing was announced last year as a by-product of the merger between Sarah Fisher Hartman Racing and Ed Carpenter Racing, it was generally perceived as Ed Carpenter taking over Sarah Fisher’s team. While both were partners, I think the perception was that Ed would have the final say on matters.

As it turns out, Sarah Fisher’s side of the partnership is carrying the team. Josef Newgarden has two wins this season and had one of the fastest cars at Milwaukee yesterday. Ed, on the other hand, has been out to lunch in his four oval races this season. If not for Newgarden, I would blame it on the smaller engineering staff not able to come to grips with the aero kit package. But Newgarden has flourished while Carpenter has struggled.

To be fair, until yesterday – Newgarden had not been setting the ovals on fire either. His success has come on road courses. Yesterday’s setup was more like a high downforce road course instead of a high-speed oval. It’s the first time Carpenter has driven this configuration.

But why has Ed had such a tough time this season? With Luca Filippi testing at Iowa a week or so ago, I wonder if he’s being groomed for Ed to step out of the cockpit and into management full-time in the near future.

Bad Day: What started out as a promising day at Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, quickly turned to disaster within just a few laps. With both cars starting in the Top-Five and Briscoe on the front row, things looked bright for SPM at Milwaukee. But Jakes had a blown engine that brought out the first caution on Lap 114. On the ensuing restart, Briscoe had the air taken from the front-end of the car coming out of Turn Three as the field was about to complete the first lap back under green. In the process, Briscoe collected Will Power as they both suffered their second DNF in as many races. In the process, Power dropped from second to fifth in the championship standings.

Good Day: Graham Rahal backed up his win at Fontana with an impressive third-place finish yesterday at Milwaukee. Rahal’s remarkable turnaround this season has continued and he has now moved into third in points. That’s even more impressive when you realize that Rahal finished eighteenth in points in 2013, and nineteenth in 2014 – finishing behind two drivers that didn’t start every race last season.

It has been speculated that Rahal’s pending nuptials in November with Courtney Force have had an influence on Rahal. Other’s say it’s a different driving style, while others credit Steak ‘n Shake as his good-luck charm. NBCSN even replayed Graham’s visit to a Voodoo shop in New Orleans where he supposedly warded off the bad karma that had been following him.

I think Curt Cavin’s theory comes closest to the truth. He says that it is due to the offseason hires that Bobby Rahal made to build a staff with chemistry to work with the younger Rahal. Whatever the case, Graham Rahal is earning a lot of respect throughout the paddock and with fans. Not only is he displaying rare driving ability, but his off-track demeanor has improved immensely with this improbable turnaround.

Milwaukee’s Future: As I said earlier, I have no way of knowing what the breakeven point is for Andretti Sports Marketing – the promoter for the Milwaukee IndyFest. Nor do I really have any idea what the actual size of yesterday’s crowd was. But I know this…it looked bigger than it has for the last couple of years, and that’s with the terrible late-afternoon start time.

Even if the Verizon IndyCar Series has to subsidize this one race, this race needs to be on the schedule. Milwaukee is in the DNA of IndyCar. To allow it to wither away is like allowing a loved one to perish by leaving them to sleep out in the rain every night and not doing whatever it takes to honor them and insure their survival. To allow Kentucky, Nashville and Houston to die is one thing. There were not decades upon decades of racing history at those tracks. But Milwaukee has roots dating back to the days of AAA and USAC, long before there was CART, Champ Car, the IRL and IndyCar. To allow it to slip away is criminal, in my opinion.

It would be like the NFL dropping the Chicago Bears or Major League Baseball no longer recognizing the New York Yankees. So much of the early days of those sports are tied to those respective teams. It’s the same with IndyCar and Milwaukee. Mark Miles needs to claw his way out of his bean-counting bunker and study the history of this sport. Let him cling to the bottom line on most items, but on Milwaukee – he needs to listen to the fans and drivers on this one.

All in all: This was typical short-track racing. It’s not always a thing of beauty, but it’s very entertaining. It’s more of a blue-collar form of racing. It gets back to the grass-roots of this sport.

Experience rules at tracks like these. That’s why the list of winners at Milwaukee contains very few obscure names. Legendary names like Foyt, Unser, Mears, Andretti, Rutherford and Johncock win at Milwaukee. Recently, it has been the names of Power, Franchitti, Hunter-Reay and Bourdais that have conquered The Mile. What’s the common denominator here? Each of those names belongs to an Indianapolis 500 and/or series champion. It’s rare that a driver will fluke into a win at Milwaukee.

This may or may not be the final Verizon IndyCar race at Milwaukee. If so, that’s too bad. I think that would be a mistake. But if it is, the grand old track went out with a good one. That’s the way it should always be.

George Phillips

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24 Responses to “Random Thoughts On Milwaukee”

  1. First to vote again…
    As usual, George, I agree, agree, agree with point after point.
    I was hoping that NBCSN wasn’t paying Hobbs much to wear a jacket and speak 300 words.

    I was glad that Townsend Bell, who might know half of what Paul Tracy knows about racing an IndyCar, wasn’t as contradictory as he had been. When Tracy remarked that T-Bell had predicted on Saturday no passing (for position) on Sunday, T-Bell didn’t try to spin.

    Like you, I was not a fan of Paul Tracy’s racing, but he is quite welcome in the booth as an adept, expert commentator.

    Leigh Diffey, while he knowledgeable, is known for ‘histrionics’ or whatever you and others label his outbursts. He and Steve Matchett (whom I agree is also well-prepared and knowledgeable) are far too excitable.

    Matchett should not be ‘rooting’ for a particular potential race winner. He shouldn’t be goading, encouraging, instructing, directing the actions of a driver who cannot hear him. I don’t want to hear him shouting toward a driver any more than I want to hear him say, “whoah” or “wow” hundreds of times.

    Too bad for Josef Newgarden … If he hadn’t lost six positions in his pit stops …

    I hope that the IndyCar chieftain, reduces the sanctioning fee that’s charged to Andretti Sports marketing if that’s necessary to keep West Allis, Wisconsin on the IndyCar schedules.

  2. A lot of people said during the middle portion of the race that it was like “old school CART.” If so I am glad CART is dead. Despite that the race was the best I’ve seen at Milwaukee (2008-now) with an interesting start and finish. I hope Milwaukee returns.I really am not sure what Bourdais did in the middle portion to be so much faster than everyone else. A lot of people thought it had to do with fuel setting (he wasn’t saving, everyone else was) in which case I’m not sure why someone towards the front did not try and pit with him so that they too could run without saving fuel. Trying to save fuel to beat Bourdais was a terrible idea (note him almost lapping the field) but due to the final yellow things almost worked out for Rahal and Newgarden. Sadly Newgarden’s crew still has a bit too much SFH in them and they cost him another race. CFH is a good team and I’d love to see Newgarden stay and win titles there but at what point should Newgarden move on to greener pastures? The constant pit problems have plagued Fisher involved pit crews for years. That said every track left on the schedule is one Newgarden did well at last year. I expect at least one more win.

    I feel that JPM/ED staying out prevented what I wanted to see, which was Rahal winning. Specifically JPM who held up Helio and Graham but ended up dropping to 4th. The attendance seemed good. There is a really annoying double standard with attendance at ovals. People freak out if things are not so good at Milwaukee or Fontana or Pocono but very few people bat an eye at sub par attendance at NOLA/Belle Isle/Toronto ect.

    I can’t really explain or understand what is going on with Rahal. It’s the same thing that has happened in NASCAR with Martin Truex Jr. One car team that was awful last year then becomes like the 3rd best car in the series. If Rahal only had won a couple more times… he’d be in the title fight. It’s unlikely he will win the title… but if JPM has bad luck coming up who knows?

    Indycar has been enjoyable the past 3 races. When Penske and Ganassi aren’t winning Indycar really is the best racing series in the world. Now if only Rahal can go and take the title from JPM….

  3. I think Milwaukee’s done. Everybody says Mike promotes the heck out of it, it’s not an ISC track, and if the racing is great (see above), then I think the market is speaking pretty loudly here. Unfortunate but it’s just a math thing.

  4. Kevin_K Says:

    Perhaps there’s hope? Still uncertain, but maybe they will be back according to this article.

    http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/12/milwaukees-future-uncertain-but-helped-by-ok-crowd-number/

  5. Fun race to watch. Looking forward to Iowa now. Love seeing Indycar on these short ovals. Would be bummed to see Milwaukee disappear but economics are king.

  6. The crowd looked better than I expected. This race needs date equity. Keep the same weekend schedule too. It was an entertaining and competitive race. Agree with almost all of your points, George.

  7. Bruce Waine Says:

    Two thoughts to ponder re David Hobbs as one of the race commentators:

    Honda is an engine supplier for the race series.

    David Hobbs still operates one of his Honda dealerships in the Milwaukee area.

  8. Ron Ford Says:

    This morning’s comment section at Racer.com about the race features at least 50 straight positive comments without whining, complaining, or arguing; possibly A NEW COMMENT RECORD for that place.

    I was there per usual and thoroughly enjoyed the race. If Newgarden had better pit stops and had stayed in clean air he may have won. Seabass was crazy good in good air and bad. I don’t know what Rahal is drinking these days but I would like to get some of that.

    I had the pleasure of meeting one of the regulars who comment here. He drove all the way from Louisville. It was fun visiting with him.

    I agree with Dylan that there appears to be much more knashing of teeth regarding oval attendence, particularly Milwaukee, compared to concern about attendence at other types of tracks. Pressdog came up out of his basement just long enough to say “Milwaukee’s done.” I prefer to be more optimistic and I don’t believe I am being unrealistic to feel that way. While I don’t know the exact figures, my impression from trackside the past three years is that the attendence at the mile has gotten incrementally better each year. I believe that in today’s society, incrementally better each year is to be expected for a variety of reasons unrelated to the product on the track. Even with the best of promotion-and the Andretti group is very good IMHO-I don’t think that promotion alone can quickly turn around the general lack of interest these days in fast cars and in racing. Attendence at race tracks of all types, from NASCAR to the local dirt tracks is declining.

    We have a race here at the oldest operating race track in America. Drivers and owners love it. How relevent is your series if you cannot find a way to continue racing at such a track? If IndyCar is not willing to focus beyond Indianapolis, if they are not willing to be patient, if they are not willing to adjust their business model to the realities of society’s apparent lukewarm interest in racing these days, then this track and others will fall faster than a Trump pinata.

    What would the attendence be at the Indy500 if the date were changed each year? How many fans would travel to the 500 if the race were to begin at 5 PM on Sunday?

    Whatever Mr. Andretti decides to do regarding the Milwaukee Mile, I can only thank him by continuing to attend each year and bringing as many possible new fans as I can. There were lots of young children at the track so that is good.

    There were still some classic Miller and Offy cars left at the track Sunday including Ol’ Calhoun. One of the owners of that car took the time to place every young kid that came along into the cockpit. Their eyes got as big as the steering wheel that they could barely see over. That never gets old. What a nice thing and what a smart thing for that man to do.

    As I said above, I prefer to be optimistic about the Milwaukee Mile reamining on the schedule. That is one helluva lot better than moping around dwelling on the alternative.

    • Well said Ron. I like your way of thinking. I, like you, saw a lot of people, families (including kids) having a lot of fun yesterday. As incremental as the numbers reportedly reflect, at least they are going up and not the other way. This is the new normal, whatever normal is. Without the Milwaukee Mile, IndyCar is half of itself. After seeing this venue for the first time this weekend, I can attest how special this track is. If it goes, so does IndyCars left lung.

  9. Leigh Diffey mentioned on Twitter that Hobbs was just a “guest” in the studio, so he tried to stay out of the way. Probably just wanted to get his name out there being one of the sponsors of the race 🙂

  10. billytheskink Says:

    A very solid Milwaukee race, aided, at least in part, by some timely cautions. It would have been more interesting, perhaps, had a couple of the other truly competitive cars (Newgarden, Rahal, and Briscoe especially) run the same strategy as Bourdais. Major kudos to Briscoe, who I thought put on the best show of the day. Milwaukee is always a nice wrinkle in the Indycar schedule, a very unique track that seems to test both oval and road racing skills.

    On the broadcast:
    Thank you, George, for your comments on David Hobbs. I was afraid I had been the only one thinking what you were. I generally like Hobbs as a broadcaster, but it really does seem that he simply shows up at Milwaukee without his homework and rambles a couple of times during the race.
    The booth was not bad overall, though, but I was quite disappointed that they did not seem to pick up on the fact that Bourdais pulled away from the field at least in part because the rest of the leaders were attempting to save fuel and finish the race in one fewer stop than the #11. Credit to Jon Beekhuis, who confirmed my suspicions reporting from the pits mid-race only to have the booth completely ignore him to continue Oooooing and Ahhhhing at Bourdais’ drive (which was still impressive).

    On the future of Indycar at the Mile:
    I do not know if what I thought was a solid but unspectacular crowd is enough to keep Andretti Sports Marketing interested in promoting it, but I do think there are a few things that give the Mile a fighting chance.
    One is that there seems to be a tremendous amount of interest among Indycar’s powers-that-be to make Milwaukee work. Some of that may be nostalgia, or a general affection for the place. Some of that may be because it is considered a key market with potential sponsors (Foyt and CFH have top sponsors headquartered nearby) and a track wide open on dates. Whatever the reason, the folks who make the decisions seem to want Milwaukee to work.
    Another reason is that if both Milwaukee and NOLA leave the schedule, Andretti Sports Marketing won’t have much to do. Those were their two major events this year. I would bet ASM is more interested in returning to Milwaukee than NOLA, given some of the circumstances in Louisiana.
    That may not be enough, but I hope it is. ABC Supply being interested in continuing to sponsor the race would help tremendously.

  11. SOCSeven Says:

    Brilliant race. Loved it, loved it, loved it.

    Love Hobbs but his contribution to this broadcast was zero.

    I sure wish someone would ask the big red chicken WHY, OH WHY new tires vs old tires make such a difference. In F1 they heat the tires because that’s good. In Indycar cold tires are better.

    And finally, when Diffey said there were only 4 races left in the season I let out a great big WTF!!!! Surely this can’t be. Is this the NHL or NBA?

    • sejarzo Says:

      Cold tires are not better; they must come up to temperature in order to work properly. Cold tires are usually the root cause of a spin T3 or T4 on an out lap. The issue is that **worn** tires are not as good as new tires at proper temperature. On short/flat ovals, the right rear tire often goes bad earlier than the others, the driver reaches the end of the adjustment range and the car ends up loose.

      If you recall, there was a comment just after the start that they could run wide early in the race but not after just a few laps due to all the tire debris that builds up outside of the preferred line.

  12. Chris Lukens Says:

    Second week in a row that we had a terrific race. And I expect a real barn burner next weekend in Iowa. Hopefully the excitement from last week bumped up the TV ratings and the excitement from this race will do the same for Iowa. I was cheering for Newgarden, but he really got hurt by two bad pit stops, one of which was not CFHR’s fault, he was held up by Munoz. I’m hoping Newgarden does well at Iowa, he had shown well there in the past

    I didn’t vote in the poll. I didn’t see a choice that reflected my thoughts. I think the Powers That Be will allow Milwaukee to fade away because it does not fit their 16 street races & one oval vision. Which is sad.

  13. Yannick Says:

    I enjoyed the Milwaukee race a lot, even though the crummy stream I found in my territory had a recurring lag not just in the sound, but it was a great race at my favourite oval, so what more can you ask for?

    I’m glad that the turnout at the gate was OK and that people did watch the race trackside. The attendance (or lack thereof) at Fontana two weeks back was really cruel.

    However, I would have preferred an earlier starting time because it was a really long night.

    I was very impressed by the performances of Josef Newgarden, Ryan Briscoe, James Jakes, Sebastien Bourdais and Helio Castroneves (in order of them happening). Without that qualifying mishap of Team Penske, Helio would have given Sebastien a run for his money, and the race would have been even better.

    Now what’s up at Ed’s place? He hasn’t fully figured out the new superspeedway aero kit yet and this was his first time in the new high downforce aerokit that the series usually runs on road courses. So what do you expect? Does he build his setups based on his teammates’ input or his old setups from last year or does he start from scratch? Whichever way it is, it is not working for him (yet) and he should try doing things the other way.
    However, it was good to see CFH Racing competitive at Fontana with both cars for a while and with one in the Top 5 in Milwaukee.
    Ed was back at the front in Fontana so it’s likely he is going to score good points again in the ongoing season.

    Here’s looking forward to Iowa.

  14. If the people of Chicago stopped going to Bears games that team would be on the LA rumor circle in a heart beat.

    I didn’t care too much for what I saw. For the first time in a long time, NASCAR took the weekend’s most exciting race. It may just have been the very poor job NBC did on Sunday. Sure there was the audio and other things mentioned above, but they did a lousy job of explaining how and why things were happening. For example:

    1) After the first caution, were the lapped cars between first in second who did not pit the reason Bourdais grabbed a ten second lead in just a few laps? There is no way anyone in this sport becomes two seconds a lap quicker than the entire field.

    2) How did Helio podium? Did he skip a pit stop making him close on fuel before the final caution won the gamble for him like it did in Toronto?

    3) How about showing us the difference between Newgarden and Dixon’s in-laps, out-laps, and pit stops during the first two green flag pit stops? Dixon smoked him somewhere, was it just the pit crews or is there more to it than that.

    NBC was ABC awful.

  15. Gurney Eagle Says:

    While I am usually pleased by the telecasts that NBCSN presents, I was offended that at the top of the screen they had the gall to use “NASCAR fonts” for “Top 2” or “Top 3”. I know that they have been wetting their pants in anticipation of televising NASCAR but that was insulting to all IndyCar fans.

  16. jhall14 Says:

    My 4th straight year of going to Milwaukee. Loved the race and I believe the Aero-kits played a big roll in seeing a better race than last year. Justin Wilson, while his finish due to engine issues did not reflect his driving ability. He and Bourdais figured that low line out well before the remainder of the field. The kits I thought brought back more side by side racing than in any previous year.

    I agree with Mr. Ford, I believe yesterday’s crowd, plus the racing will put Milwaukee back on the schedule. My wife and our 2 sons have made this trip for 4 years now, we know the area, just need a reason to come back. It is the most unique track that INDYCAR runs on.

  17. Bruce B Says:

    There’s a line by Paul Newman in the movie “Winning” …..”Everybody goes to Milwaukee after Indy”. Sadly this tradition was dropped years ago. I agree it would be an utter shame to lose The historic Milwaukee mile.

  18. Better race than Fontana in my opinion. Best race since Munoz won in Detroit. Great reminder that a huge lead can be a good thing as long as it was clearly earned. I would have preferred to see a lap up victory rather than the yellow compressed field.

    Indycar absolutely baffles me:
    Blip the throttle over speed limit well away from any car or crew member – absolute and immediately applied penalty
    Rip a fuel hose out endangering crew members in immediate vicinity and cause a caution by dropping a potentially crippling piece of debris – points penalty next week
    Hit a crew member – absolutely nothing.

    For Indycar ITS NOT ABOUT SAFETY. Actions don’t back up the words.

    Somebody remind Indycar that despite their own press release that Hinch will not need any further medical procedures… the guy is still exhausting his diet into a bag and needs full bowel reconstruction surgery.

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