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		<title>By: Herman Flowers</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/learn-the-drivers-names/#comment-11494</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Herman Flowers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post,I believe my reply last week is one of them you are calling out.I stand by my post as being very factual.I dont have a problem with drivers from another land and I guickly lean who the drivers are competing in the IRL.The problem is they were never well known before they came to the IRL.In the days past most drivers made a name for themselfs and were known to USA racing fans before they came to Indy. Todays field of drivers are not much at all conected to 90% of the type of racing that takes place in the USA.The simple fact of who is and who is not driving the cars is not the only problem Indy Car is dealing with today or should I refraze that in say problems they should be dealiing with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post,I believe my reply last week is one of them you are calling out.I stand by my post as being very factual.I dont have a problem with drivers from another land and I guickly lean who the drivers are competing in the IRL.The problem is they were never well known before they came to the IRL.In the days past most drivers made a name for themselfs and were known to USA racing fans before they came to Indy. Todays field of drivers are not much at all conected to 90% of the type of racing that takes place in the USA.The simple fact of who is and who is not driving the cars is not the only problem Indy Car is dealing with today or should I refraze that in say problems they should be dealiing with.</p>
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		<title>By: elmondohummus</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/learn-the-drivers-names/#comment-11476</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THANK YOU! George said what I&#039;ve been saying for freakin&#039; YEARS about the whole American drivers charge, right down to the comparison with baseball. Between that sport and the NBA, I see plenty of acceptance of foreign players. Why Indycar is supposed to be different, I don&#039;t know for sure; I guess it has something to do with the comparison to NASCAR and the misguided belief that Indycar has to emulate them in order to be successful. 

Complaining about the presence of foreign drivers in Indycar is ignorant. 

On top of that, what&#039;s more American than a foreigner coming to the states and having success based on merit?

Indycar isn&#039;t American enough? Bull. The fact that foreigners and native born drivers compete under equal rules with no consideration for their birthplace is to me the EPITOME of what&#039;s American. And enforcing homogeneity as well as penalizing for success (a-la phantom yellows to reduce hard earned leads), is, to me, eminently &lt;i&gt;un&lt;/i&gt;american. Which oddly enough are the hallmarks of the supposedly Mom &amp; Apple Pie All-American race league. 

Indycar and the Indianapolis 500 are the EPITOME of being American. And the all-inclusiveness of the series is a FEATURE of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU! George said what I&#8217;ve been saying for freakin&#8217; YEARS about the whole American drivers charge, right down to the comparison with baseball. Between that sport and the NBA, I see plenty of acceptance of foreign players. Why Indycar is supposed to be different, I don&#8217;t know for sure; I guess it has something to do with the comparison to NASCAR and the misguided belief that Indycar has to emulate them in order to be successful. </p>
<p>Complaining about the presence of foreign drivers in Indycar is ignorant. </p>
<p>On top of that, what&#8217;s more American than a foreigner coming to the states and having success based on merit?</p>
<p>Indycar isn&#8217;t American enough? Bull. The fact that foreigners and native born drivers compete under equal rules with no consideration for their birthplace is to me the EPITOME of what&#8217;s American. And enforcing homogeneity as well as penalizing for success (a-la phantom yellows to reduce hard earned leads), is, to me, eminently <i>un</i>american. Which oddly enough are the hallmarks of the supposedly Mom &amp; Apple Pie All-American race league. </p>
<p>Indycar and the Indianapolis 500 are the EPITOME of being American. And the all-inclusiveness of the series is a FEATURE of that.</p>
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		<title>By: John S.</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/learn-the-drivers-names/#comment-11473</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Root for a driver because of their nationality?  Sorry, but that&#039;s just plain ignorant.  If that&#039;s truly the way you feel, go to NASCAR, because you are truly a &quot;Bubba.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Root for a driver because of their nationality?  Sorry, but that&#8217;s just plain ignorant.  If that&#8217;s truly the way you feel, go to NASCAR, because you are truly a &#8220;Bubba.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Oilpressure</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/learn-the-drivers-names/#comment-11472</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 01:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, for the time period you referenced (1950-1980); fifteen foreign drivers made their debut at Indianapolis, some with long-lasting careers while others only had one start. They are (with their rookie year):

Alberto Ascari 1952
Jack Brabham 1961
Jim Clark 1963
Billy Foster 1965
Graham Hill 1966
Jackie Stewart 1966
Denis Hulme 1967
Jochen Rindt 1967
David Hobbs 1971
Graham McRae 1973
Eldon Rasmussen 1975
Vern Schuppan 1976
Cliff Hugul 1977
Clay Regazzoni 1977
Dennis Firestone 1980

The late sixties averaged three to four foreign drivers each year. That doesn&#039;t come close to today&#039;s numbers, but you&#039;re a bit off when you claim we don&#039;t know our history. Maybe it&#039;s just that we realized things have changed since the 1950&#039;s and we also realize that those days aren&#039;t coming back. Step away from the ledge and hop on board the train headed forward. There&#039;s still plenty of room.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for the time period you referenced (1950-1980); fifteen foreign drivers made their debut at Indianapolis, some with long-lasting careers while others only had one start. They are (with their rookie year):</p>
<p>Alberto Ascari 1952<br />
Jack Brabham 1961<br />
Jim Clark 1963<br />
Billy Foster 1965<br />
Graham Hill 1966<br />
Jackie Stewart 1966<br />
Denis Hulme 1967<br />
Jochen Rindt 1967<br />
David Hobbs 1971<br />
Graham McRae 1973<br />
Eldon Rasmussen 1975<br />
Vern Schuppan 1976<br />
Cliff Hugul 1977<br />
Clay Regazzoni 1977<br />
Dennis Firestone 1980</p>
<p>The late sixties averaged three to four foreign drivers each year. That doesn&#8217;t come close to today&#8217;s numbers, but you&#8217;re a bit off when you claim we don&#8217;t know our history. Maybe it&#8217;s just that we realized things have changed since the 1950&#8242;s and we also realize that those days aren&#8217;t coming back. Step away from the ledge and hop on board the train headed forward. There&#8217;s still plenty of room.</p>
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		<title>By: The Speedgeek</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 01:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2004 - 18 Americans
2005 - 15 Americans
2006 - 19 Americans
2007 - 20 Americans
2008 - 13 Americans
2009 - 11 Americans
2010 - 9 Americans
2011 - 10 Americans
2012 - currently 8 Americans on the entry, but Townsend Bell is yet to be confirmed and a couple more guys are remote possibilities

OK, what&#039;s this tell us? Yes, obviously, the 500 has been less &quot;American&quot; since remergification. However, are you going to tell me that the 2004 through 2007 fields were better, and had more potential to grab fans because they sported the likes of Jon Herb, Jacques Lazier, Roger Yasukawa, Jeff Simmons, Larry Foyt, P.J. Jones and Robbie McGehee? Because to my mind, having people like Bourdais, de Silvestro, Power, Hinchcliffe, Barrichello and Pagenaud sounds like just as marketable a grid, if not moreso, than the ones we had just a few scant years ago. Very true, the grids back in the &#039;50s through the early &#039;80s were nearly the sole domain of American drivers, but for 90% of the American public, those races might as well have taken place a million years ago. The average SportsCenter watcher doesn&#039;t know anything about that era, and doesn&#039;t care.

I&#039;m convinced that with hockey (with all those goofy Eastern Europeans and Sweedes and the like) regaining momentum in the American sporting landscape, and with the rise of the international players in the NBA, and with international sports like English Premier League soccer starting to catch on, most American sports fans don&#039;t give a crap where somebody comes from. They just want to see a winner. Show me somebody who can consistently appear in the highlights on SportsCenter (which assumes that IndyCar actually appears there, which is a whole separate rant), and I&#039;ll show you somebody who gains a following, regardless of where they were born.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2004 &#8211; 18 Americans<br />
2005 &#8211; 15 Americans<br />
2006 &#8211; 19 Americans<br />
2007 &#8211; 20 Americans<br />
2008 &#8211; 13 Americans<br />
2009 &#8211; 11 Americans<br />
2010 &#8211; 9 Americans<br />
2011 &#8211; 10 Americans<br />
2012 &#8211; currently 8 Americans on the entry, but Townsend Bell is yet to be confirmed and a couple more guys are remote possibilities</p>
<p>OK, what&#8217;s this tell us? Yes, obviously, the 500 has been less &#8220;American&#8221; since remergification. However, are you going to tell me that the 2004 through 2007 fields were better, and had more potential to grab fans because they sported the likes of Jon Herb, Jacques Lazier, Roger Yasukawa, Jeff Simmons, Larry Foyt, P.J. Jones and Robbie McGehee? Because to my mind, having people like Bourdais, de Silvestro, Power, Hinchcliffe, Barrichello and Pagenaud sounds like just as marketable a grid, if not moreso, than the ones we had just a few scant years ago. Very true, the grids back in the &#8217;50s through the early &#8217;80s were nearly the sole domain of American drivers, but for 90% of the American public, those races might as well have taken place a million years ago. The average SportsCenter watcher doesn&#8217;t know anything about that era, and doesn&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced that with hockey (with all those goofy Eastern Europeans and Sweedes and the like) regaining momentum in the American sporting landscape, and with the rise of the international players in the NBA, and with international sports like English Premier League soccer starting to catch on, most American sports fans don&#8217;t give a crap where somebody comes from. They just want to see a winner. Show me somebody who can consistently appear in the highlights on SportsCenter (which assumes that IndyCar actually appears there, which is a whole separate rant), and I&#8217;ll show you somebody who gains a following, regardless of where they were born.</p>
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		<title>By: redcar</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/learn-the-drivers-names/#comment-11470</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just glad the black is back.  That other theme shocked me so much I couldn&#039;t even comment.  It was like seeing your uncle in drag.  Your American uncle of course...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just glad the black is back.  That other theme shocked me so much I couldn&#8217;t even comment.  It was like seeing your uncle in drag.  Your American uncle of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paige</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/learn-the-drivers-names/#comment-11468</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I choose to root for a driver based on their talent, skill, and/or personality; not the flag of the country they&#039;re from.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I choose to root for a driver based on their talent, skill, and/or personality; not the flag of the country they&#8217;re from.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Blow</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/learn-the-drivers-names/#comment-11467</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Blow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In fact, foreign drivers have been part of the Indianapolis 500 since the beginning.&quot;


Yes, look at all of those foreign-born drivers in the Indy 500 from 1950-1980.  The field was just jammed packed with non-Americans.

Some of you don&#039;t know your Indy 500 history very well.  Its only duing the F1-junior series era of the Indy 500 (1990-today) that Indy has become less and less an American driver&#039;s domain.  Culminating with new record low&#039;s for American participation in 2009, 2010, 2011 and again this year.

Some of you might not think it matters much, but your wrong.  The lack of interest of this sport tells the story.  And a big reason for it?  Not American enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In fact, foreign drivers have been part of the Indianapolis 500 since the beginning.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, look at all of those foreign-born drivers in the Indy 500 from 1950-1980.  The field was just jammed packed with non-Americans.</p>
<p>Some of you don&#8217;t know your Indy 500 history very well.  Its only duing the F1-junior series era of the Indy 500 (1990-today) that Indy has become less and less an American driver&#8217;s domain.  Culminating with new record low&#8217;s for American participation in 2009, 2010, 2011 and again this year.</p>
<p>Some of you might not think it matters much, but your wrong.  The lack of interest of this sport tells the story.  And a big reason for it?  Not American enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/learn-the-drivers-names/#comment-11466</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indycar has foreign drivers with names like Wilson, Conway and Dixon, Scott, Justin, Mike.   The american drivers have names like Andretti, Rahal, Josef, Marco.  Who sounds more &quot;foreign&quot;? 

 As long as there&#039;s good racing, I don&#039;t care what nationality they are.  However, I think an American winning the Indy 500 would gain more media attention (particularly if its Andretti or Rahal)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indycar has foreign drivers with names like Wilson, Conway and Dixon, Scott, Justin, Mike.   The american drivers have names like Andretti, Rahal, Josef, Marco.  Who sounds more &#8220;foreign&#8221;? </p>
<p> As long as there&#8217;s good racing, I don&#8217;t care what nationality they are.  However, I think an American winning the Indy 500 would gain more media attention (particularly if its Andretti or Rahal)</p>
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		<title>By: billytheskink</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2012/04/25/learn-the-drivers-names/#comment-11465</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t know about hockey, but IndyCar owners would be very reluctant to hire a driver named &quot;Smith&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know about hockey, but IndyCar owners would be very reluctant to hire a driver named &#8220;Smith&#8221;.</p>
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