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		<title>By: f1 forum</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/the-evolution-of-an-indycar/#comment-11046</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Speedgeek</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/the-evolution-of-an-indycar/#comment-4541</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, good times. Another discussion of...something, anything, descends into a chorus of &quot;Irrelevent! Nobody cares about this series! It&#039;s going straight down the toilet!&quot; How I love internet discourse sometimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, good times. Another discussion of&#8230;something, anything, descends into a chorus of &#8220;Irrelevent! Nobody cares about this series! It&#8217;s going straight down the toilet!&#8221; How I love internet discourse sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/the-evolution-of-an-indycar/#comment-4537</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With a 0.2 rating and 30k fans in the stands, what does running series really do for Indy?   

The &quot;we need a series&quot; credo is the party line, but there is no evidence to support it.  

The race made it&#039;s mark in history without a series, but you want to convince me that it can&#039;t survive if they don&#039;t continue to run events nobody even cares about?

The 500 has been neutered to the point of irrelevance because the series is a financial anchor holding it down.  

Newsflash.  OW racing is already less relevant than horseracing. The announcement yesterday will not change the course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a 0.2 rating and 30k fans in the stands, what does running series really do for Indy?   </p>
<p>The &#8220;we need a series&#8221; credo is the party line, but there is no evidence to support it.  </p>
<p>The race made it&#8217;s mark in history without a series, but you want to convince me that it can&#8217;t survive if they don&#8217;t continue to run events nobody even cares about?</p>
<p>The 500 has been neutered to the point of irrelevance because the series is a financial anchor holding it down.  </p>
<p>Newsflash.  OW racing is already less relevant than horseracing. The announcement yesterday will not change the course.</p>
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		<title>By: AZZO45</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 02:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 500 would soon die off if Indy was the only OW event of the year. Every pro series has their Crown Jewel.  NAPCAR has Daytona, F1 has Silverstone, Monza &amp; Monaco. sports cars has LeMans 24.

Those series also give their fans plenty of other venues to watch them race. :idea:  Indy Only would make American OW as irrelevant  as horse racing, non olympic track &amp; field, or hydroplane racing in this country.  I understand restoring the 500, but it need a series to truly restore it to levels you are speaking about :!:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 500 would soon die off if Indy was the only OW event of the year. Every pro series has their Crown Jewel.  NAPCAR has Daytona, F1 has Silverstone, Monza &amp; Monaco. sports cars has LeMans 24.</p>
<p>Those series also give their fans plenty of other venues to watch them race. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif' alt=':idea:' class='wp-smiley' />   Indy Only would make American OW as irrelevant  as horse racing, non olympic track &amp; field, or hydroplane racing in this country.  I understand restoring the 500, but it need a series to truly restore it to levels you are speaking about <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif' alt=':!:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: redd</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously Dallara has a huge advantage in the aero package.  And I understand how the limited amount of packages to be sold might not make it profitable for manufacturers other than Dallara.

But the fact that you could design just an aero package and basically have your own whole chassis, with all the marketing that entails, might be attractive to some.  A way to have your own chassis for much less money than a real chassis would cost.

I really like the idea, but like everyone, I have tons of questions.  I guess the main one would be--why limit the cost of the aero package?  If a team wants a &quot;cheap&quot; one they&#039;ll just buy it from Dallara.  If you (and by you I mean Penske) want to design and build your own, who cares how much you choose to spend?  And I think Dallara would need to stay (at least)  competitive with their design.

Man.  Lots to think about.  I think some folks are disappointed they didn&#039;t just allow all the cars, but that was never in the cards.  And if they have to have one spec car, this might be the coolest way to go about it.   Look forward to your thoughts, George.   This is me shuttin&#039; up now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously Dallara has a huge advantage in the aero package.  And I understand how the limited amount of packages to be sold might not make it profitable for manufacturers other than Dallara.</p>
<p>But the fact that you could design just an aero package and basically have your own whole chassis, with all the marketing that entails, might be attractive to some.  A way to have your own chassis for much less money than a real chassis would cost.</p>
<p>I really like the idea, but like everyone, I have tons of questions.  I guess the main one would be&#8211;why limit the cost of the aero package?  If a team wants a &#8220;cheap&#8221; one they&#8217;ll just buy it from Dallara.  If you (and by you I mean Penske) want to design and build your own, who cares how much you choose to spend?  And I think Dallara would need to stay (at least)  competitive with their design.</p>
<p>Man.  Lots to think about.  I think some folks are disappointed they didn&#8217;t just allow all the cars, but that was never in the cards.  And if they have to have one spec car, this might be the coolest way to go about it.   Look forward to your thoughts, George.   This is me shuttin&#8217; up now.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Penske will have no incentive to develop aero kits. Doing so yields no on track advantage because he would have to make the package available to everyone.  Penske&#039;s largest advantage exists when fewer aero package options are available because the team can then lean on their setup skills that currently make their cars run faster despite having the same components.   The eventual equilibrium of the strategy announced today is very much what we see today.  

If penske does develop a package it will be because there is an opportunity to sell enough to profit off of it, not because it will benefit the team on the track.   

First movers will have a huge advantage with the potato head parts.  After the fields are full, the cost caps and limited customer base will make it difficult to recoup the cost of producing an aero package and bringing it to market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penske will have no incentive to develop aero kits. Doing so yields no on track advantage because he would have to make the package available to everyone.  Penske&#8217;s largest advantage exists when fewer aero package options are available because the team can then lean on their setup skills that currently make their cars run faster despite having the same components.   The eventual equilibrium of the strategy announced today is very much what we see today.  </p>
<p>If penske does develop a package it will be because there is an opportunity to sell enough to profit off of it, not because it will benefit the team on the track.   </p>
<p>First movers will have a huge advantage with the potato head parts.  After the fields are full, the cost caps and limited customer base will make it difficult to recoup the cost of producing an aero package and bringing it to market.</p>
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		<title>By: The Speedgeek</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No need for Percs. I&#039;ve already found the good Scotch. Mmmmmm, I love Scotch. Scotch, Scotch, Scotchy Scotch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need for Percs. I&#8217;ve already found the good Scotch. Mmmmmm, I love Scotch. Scotch, Scotch, Scotchy Scotch.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As more information comes out it appears that Penske will be able to produce their own aero kits --- but they have to share it with others and sell kits for $70,000.

The limit on 2 aero kits per car each season I think will limit the variety of packages on the track (at most tracks).  Although the 2 aero package limit might give some of the teams that only run a couple races each season an &quot;advantage&quot; on the tracks they do run because they can choose the optimal package for that specific track opposed to an optimal package for a whole season of oval or road courses.  We might see a smaller team come into Indy with an aero package that is perfect for Indianapolis but would be terrible at Texas.  I would be shocked if somebody didn&#039;t come out with what they deemed the optimum Indianapolis aero package designed to work wonderful at the Speedway but forced you to drive like Milka Duno elsewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As more information comes out it appears that Penske will be able to produce their own aero kits &#8212; but they have to share it with others and sell kits for $70,000.</p>
<p>The limit on 2 aero kits per car each season I think will limit the variety of packages on the track (at most tracks).  Although the 2 aero package limit might give some of the teams that only run a couple races each season an &#8220;advantage&#8221; on the tracks they do run because they can choose the optimal package for that specific track opposed to an optimal package for a whole season of oval or road courses.  We might see a smaller team come into Indy with an aero package that is perfect for Indianapolis but would be terrible at Texas.  I would be shocked if somebody didn&#8217;t come out with what they deemed the optimum Indianapolis aero package designed to work wonderful at the Speedway but forced you to drive like Milka Duno elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[B.s.   The 500 still has a large enough attendance to make an open spec completely feasible.   It only becomes cost prohibitive when you schedule 16 additional events that lose money and use up all of the revenue that the 500 produced.  If you don&#039;t blow the money running races that nobody watches or attends you suddenly have boatloads of cash to spend on development. 

They want to compromise Indy to allow the series to continue and then they cant understand why nobody is excited about the watered down event anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B.s.   The 500 still has a large enough attendance to make an open spec completely feasible.   It only becomes cost prohibitive when you schedule 16 additional events that lose money and use up all of the revenue that the 500 produced.  If you don&#8217;t blow the money running races that nobody watches or attends you suddenly have boatloads of cash to spend on development. </p>
<p>They want to compromise Indy to allow the series to continue and then they cant understand why nobody is excited about the watered down event anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Assuming they can get manufacturers on-board the new &quot;system&quot; could work.  I hope we see several smaller manufactures step in so that there are 4 or 5 different aero packages running a given race.  This Mr Potato head style approach to car assembly with interchangeable parts will either result in a field of identical cars like we have today or the possibility to have a field of vastly different cars.  Unfortunately I don&#039;t think they will allow the use of manufacture A side pods, manufacture B rear wings, and manufacture C front wing.  Allowing that level of interchangeability could result in all 33 cars in the Indy 500 running different packages.  As a side, I foresee Penske developing a Penske aero package (assuming that fits within the rules and regulations).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming they can get manufacturers on-board the new &#8220;system&#8221; could work.  I hope we see several smaller manufactures step in so that there are 4 or 5 different aero packages running a given race.  This Mr Potato head style approach to car assembly with interchangeable parts will either result in a field of identical cars like we have today or the possibility to have a field of vastly different cars.  Unfortunately I don&#8217;t think they will allow the use of manufacture A side pods, manufacture B rear wings, and manufacture C front wing.  Allowing that level of interchangeability could result in all 33 cars in the Indy 500 running different packages.  As a side, I foresee Penske developing a Penske aero package (assuming that fits within the rules and regulations).</p>
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