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		<title>By: The Speedgeek</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 03:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good thoughts about the Fast 9 format, but I&#039;ll just offer that the track has historically always been closed between Bump Day and Carb Day. That&#039;s no different than it&#039;s ever been.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts about the Fast 9 format, but I&#8217;ll just offer that the track has historically always been closed between Bump Day and Carb Day. That&#8217;s no different than it&#8217;s ever been.</p>
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		<title>By: Savage Henry</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 20:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that keeping the raceday traditions is extremely important.  When I&#039;ve been away from the speedway for a few years its awesome to know that there is going to be the Purdue Marching Band, &quot;Back Home Again in Indiana&quot;, the balloons, and all of the pomp and circumstance, just like when I was a kid.  That&#039;s Indy!  I get a little emotional.

However, how we get there needs to be able to change with the times.  There&#039;s no reason to have all of the cars on-track for a whole month - they&#039;ve been running the same car/tire/engine package for 10 years!  There&#039;s nothing experimental going on.  There are no new technologies to shake down.  I hope the day comes where there&#039;s a need for the month-long format to return.  I also like the Fast 9 and anything that brings more interest to qualifying.

However, I agree with Scott that some of the changes put the small teams at a  disadvantage.  First, even if a small team makes the Fast 9, they are not going to be able to go all-out, especially if they only have one car.  Notice this year that Rahal, Carpenter, and Mutoh didn&#039;t even try to push it in the Fast 9.  They were so happy to be in the first three rows that they didn&#039;t want to risk wadding up their cars and screwing themselves for the race.   The better-financed teams have more leeway.  To rectify this issue, if a car puts up an excellent time in the 1st round of qualifying, they should have the right to sit on that time and use it for their Fast 9 time.  Anyone who runs in the Fast 9 has the opportunity to beat it.  (Here&#039;s the rub, you need to choose to sit on your time prior to the start of the Fast 9.  If you choose to sit on the time, you waive your right to run in the Fast 9).

Second, the fact that there is no on-track activity between the end of qualifying and Carb Day really hurts small teams that just made it into the race.  When do they have time to work on race setups?  I&#039;m thinking about the Junk-man - he&#039;s going into the race on 7 laps on Bump Day and whatever he was able to do in the hour of Carb Day.  Also guys like TK who changed cars (again) and Saavedra who had to have his car put back together.  How much benefit are they really going to get out of Carb Day?  To rectify this, they need to open the track for practice at least one day between Bump Day and Carb Day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that keeping the raceday traditions is extremely important.  When I&#8217;ve been away from the speedway for a few years its awesome to know that there is going to be the Purdue Marching Band, &#8220;Back Home Again in Indiana&#8221;, the balloons, and all of the pomp and circumstance, just like when I was a kid.  That&#8217;s Indy!  I get a little emotional.</p>
<p>However, how we get there needs to be able to change with the times.  There&#8217;s no reason to have all of the cars on-track for a whole month &#8211; they&#8217;ve been running the same car/tire/engine package for 10 years!  There&#8217;s nothing experimental going on.  There are no new technologies to shake down.  I hope the day comes where there&#8217;s a need for the month-long format to return.  I also like the Fast 9 and anything that brings more interest to qualifying.</p>
<p>However, I agree with Scott that some of the changes put the small teams at a  disadvantage.  First, even if a small team makes the Fast 9, they are not going to be able to go all-out, especially if they only have one car.  Notice this year that Rahal, Carpenter, and Mutoh didn&#8217;t even try to push it in the Fast 9.  They were so happy to be in the first three rows that they didn&#8217;t want to risk wadding up their cars and screwing themselves for the race.   The better-financed teams have more leeway.  To rectify this issue, if a car puts up an excellent time in the 1st round of qualifying, they should have the right to sit on that time and use it for their Fast 9 time.  Anyone who runs in the Fast 9 has the opportunity to beat it.  (Here&#8217;s the rub, you need to choose to sit on your time prior to the start of the Fast 9.  If you choose to sit on the time, you waive your right to run in the Fast 9).</p>
<p>Second, the fact that there is no on-track activity between the end of qualifying and Carb Day really hurts small teams that just made it into the race.  When do they have time to work on race setups?  I&#8217;m thinking about the Junk-man &#8211; he&#8217;s going into the race on 7 laps on Bump Day and whatever he was able to do in the hour of Carb Day.  Also guys like TK who changed cars (again) and Saavedra who had to have his car put back together.  How much benefit are they really going to get out of Carb Day?  To rectify this, they need to open the track for practice at least one day between Bump Day and Carb Day.</p>
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		<title>By: redd</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 15:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe I drank too much Kool-Aid, but I feel very optimistic about the direction the Greatest Spectacle and the IIRS is headed.  They are walking a tightrope between changes that might draw new fans while hanging onto the traditions loved by the old ones.  Izod is doing a tremendous job of championing the series.  I feel good about the new chassis and engine changes (whatever that is and whenever that occurs), and the 50/50 championships.  I like the partnership with Versus and see that growing in the near future.  I see more drivers and more sponsors.  I was happy to see Sunoco coming on as a sponsor to the series.  I think Bernard is doing a very good job.  And I&#039;m really looking forward to this weekend&#039;s 500 mile race.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I drank too much Kool-Aid, but I feel very optimistic about the direction the Greatest Spectacle and the IIRS is headed.  They are walking a tightrope between changes that might draw new fans while hanging onto the traditions loved by the old ones.  Izod is doing a tremendous job of championing the series.  I feel good about the new chassis and engine changes (whatever that is and whenever that occurs), and the 50/50 championships.  I like the partnership with Versus and see that growing in the near future.  I see more drivers and more sponsors.  I was happy to see Sunoco coming on as a sponsor to the series.  I think Bernard is doing a very good job.  And I&#8217;m really looking forward to this weekend&#8217;s 500 mile race.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 14:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George Beware the CAVE people.  Citizens Against Virtuall Everything...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Beware the CAVE people.  Citizens Against Virtuall Everything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: billytheskink</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 14:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to have to remain bitter about the changes to the Indy 500 website until the photo archives are restored.  I&#039;ve been robbed of my annual tradition of looking at Sheldon Kinser&#039;s Sergio Valente car.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to have to remain bitter about the changes to the Indy 500 website until the photo archives are restored.  I&#8217;ve been robbed of my annual tradition of looking at Sheldon Kinser&#8217;s Sergio Valente car.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesO</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 13:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll order off the menu on the poll.  I think some things need to be changed.  I don&#039;t necessarily agree that people know what they&#039;re doing, or are always doing things for the right reasons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll order off the menu on the poll.  I think some things need to be changed.  I don&#8217;t necessarily agree that people know what they&#8217;re doing, or are always doing things for the right reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: The Speedgeek</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 12:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very well timed column today, George. Reading Robin Miller&#039;s SpeedTV.com mailbag yesterday (which I&#039;m not sure why I do anymore because it&#039;s filled with letters from seemingly the same 10-20 malcontents every week), I was struck by just how many people seem to be stuck in a time when there were 40-50 cars coming to the Speedway every year, when 100,000 people would show up for Pole Day (because there wasn&#039;t much of anything else to do in Indy or anywhere else at this time of year), when there were no DVDs, video games or giant TVs at home, or crazy well organized kids sports, or tons of outdoor hobbies, or Youtube, or whatever, all of which pull peoples&#039; attention away from the track, and how many of those people that just can&#039;t seem to get their heads around the fact that things have changed. One guy was even pining for the days of &quot;Clark, Hill, Unser, Foyt, Gurney, Donahue, McLaren, Andretti, Mears, Rutherford and on and on&quot;. Um, sir? Two of those guys have been dead for over 40 years. Two more have been dead for more than 35 years. None of them have turned a lap in anger at the Speedway (unless you count Mario&#039;s test that resulted in him flipping a few years ago) in over 15 years. Uh, things change. If you&#039;re looking for a return to 1975, then you&#039;re going to be waiting a long time. A lot of current fans (myself included) weren&#039;t even alive then. Better to try to keep up with the times and adjust your mindset accordingly, I think, otherwise you&#039;re liable to wind up a bitter, old man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very well timed column today, George. Reading Robin Miller&#8217;s SpeedTV.com mailbag yesterday (which I&#8217;m not sure why I do anymore because it&#8217;s filled with letters from seemingly the same 10-20 malcontents every week), I was struck by just how many people seem to be stuck in a time when there were 40-50 cars coming to the Speedway every year, when 100,000 people would show up for Pole Day (because there wasn&#8217;t much of anything else to do in Indy or anywhere else at this time of year), when there were no DVDs, video games or giant TVs at home, or crazy well organized kids sports, or tons of outdoor hobbies, or Youtube, or whatever, all of which pull peoples&#8217; attention away from the track, and how many of those people that just can&#8217;t seem to get their heads around the fact that things have changed. One guy was even pining for the days of &#8220;Clark, Hill, Unser, Foyt, Gurney, Donahue, McLaren, Andretti, Mears, Rutherford and on and on&#8221;. Um, sir? Two of those guys have been dead for over 40 years. Two more have been dead for more than 35 years. None of them have turned a lap in anger at the Speedway (unless you count Mario&#8217;s test that resulted in him flipping a few years ago) in over 15 years. Uh, things change. If you&#8217;re looking for a return to 1975, then you&#8217;re going to be waiting a long time. A lot of current fans (myself included) weren&#8217;t even alive then. Better to try to keep up with the times and adjust your mindset accordingly, I think, otherwise you&#8217;re liable to wind up a bitter, old man.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Austin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 11:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If people are charged up about the qualifying changes this year they really must be ticked off about:

*The periodic re-building of the Pagoda structures.

*Allowing Nascar, F1 and MotoGP tp run at Indy (and to allow motorcycles to be parked on the backstretch.  And F1 prima donnas land their choppers on the golf course for entry and egress).

*When IMS added extra turn to the turns to square them off to slow down the speeds.

They need a life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people are charged up about the qualifying changes this year they really must be ticked off about:</p>
<p>*The periodic re-building of the Pagoda structures.</p>
<p>*Allowing Nascar, F1 and MotoGP tp run at Indy (and to allow motorcycles to be parked on the backstretch.  And F1 prima donnas land their choppers on the golf course for entry and egress).</p>
<p>*When IMS added extra turn to the turns to square them off to slow down the speeds.</p>
<p>They need a life.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 11:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all know that I&#039;m the posterboy for bitterness!

I&#039;ve got just one dislike of the fast 9, and that is the fact that it reduces the chances for the underdog to grab the pole.  When you have to guess the perfect time of day to run, have your car set just right and miss the unlucky gusts, the underdogs chances decline as each car has more chances to run.  Forcing them all to go in the same 90 minute window really closes the door on the underdogs.  

I can live with that because in the end they will, more often than not, put the fastest pole day car on the pole.   If, however, the fastest time of the day came earlier in the day and nobody bested it after 4:00 I would have a big issue.   I also dislike how sensitive to weather this format is. 

My larger issue is with the ability to pull and requalify a car that is in the field on Bump day.  I am truely bitter that the rules in place since 2005 can create a field that excludes any of the 33 fastest qualifiers. 

In my mind there should be 2 hard and fast rules:  1) the fastest pole day run is awarded the pole and 2) the fastest 33 cars make the race.   Use any gimmick or twist you want, but don&#039;t deny the 500 these two basic tenets.  I know I complain a lot, but surely I&#039;m not asking too much with here am I?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know that I&#8217;m the posterboy for bitterness!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got just one dislike of the fast 9, and that is the fact that it reduces the chances for the underdog to grab the pole.  When you have to guess the perfect time of day to run, have your car set just right and miss the unlucky gusts, the underdogs chances decline as each car has more chances to run.  Forcing them all to go in the same 90 minute window really closes the door on the underdogs.  </p>
<p>I can live with that because in the end they will, more often than not, put the fastest pole day car on the pole.   If, however, the fastest time of the day came earlier in the day and nobody bested it after 4:00 I would have a big issue.   I also dislike how sensitive to weather this format is. </p>
<p>My larger issue is with the ability to pull and requalify a car that is in the field on Bump day.  I am truely bitter that the rules in place since 2005 can create a field that excludes any of the 33 fastest qualifiers. </p>
<p>In my mind there should be 2 hard and fast rules:  1) the fastest pole day run is awarded the pole and 2) the fastest 33 cars make the race.   Use any gimmick or twist you want, but don&#8217;t deny the 500 these two basic tenets.  I know I complain a lot, but surely I&#8217;m not asking too much with here am I?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Nothhelfer</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 10:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never been to Indy, so my perspective on the event is from television, (btw my wife hates the new IndyCar beta website too....)
I lament the multiple changes in configurations to HMS, and the loss of traditional spring training. Next year or the year after the Homestead race will probably be off the schedule too.
But I look forward to getting to the speedway, it all sounds really good to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been to Indy, so my perspective on the event is from television, (btw my wife hates the new IndyCar beta website too&#8230;.)<br />
I lament the multiple changes in configurations to HMS, and the loss of traditional spring training. Next year or the year after the Homestead race will probably be off the schedule too.<br />
But I look forward to getting to the speedway, it all sounds really good to me.</p>
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