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		<title>By: JohnMc</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/should-the-sisters-sell/#comment-2706</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bristol Motor Speedway eats money every day, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bristol Motor Speedway eats money every day, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh O'Gorman</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/should-the-sisters-sell/#comment-2697</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott,

I think some of the poorer crowds at the non-500 races is partially down to dreadful promotion and poor / indecisive management of the series.  Hopefully this is something Randy Bernard can help rework; otherwise the series may continue to struggle.  
I am adamant that the series will not fix itself overnight - despite what many think.  It will take time...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>I think some of the poorer crowds at the non-500 races is partially down to dreadful promotion and poor / indecisive management of the series.  Hopefully this is something Randy Bernard can help rework; otherwise the series may continue to struggle.<br />
I am adamant that the series will not fix itself overnight &#8211; despite what many think.  It will take time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HooverOnTheWeb</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/should-the-sisters-sell/#comment-2685</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On November 1, 1927, Rickenbacker bought the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, which he operated for nearly a decade and a half, overseeing many improvements to the facility. - Wikapedia
 It is possible that someone named George (Forsythe, Tony) that has the passion, could buy the speeday. It is possible that some else could buy the speedway. It is possible that the fans (fanatics) could rally and help guide the future. I don&#039;t know that the sisters will let us down or that someone with passion has the clout (Peter Windsor) or the money or both (Roger Pensky) could put a deal together. This is a question that makes us reflect on the very thing the speedway lives off of; tradition...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On November 1, 1927, Rickenbacker bought the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, which he operated for nearly a decade and a half, overseeing many improvements to the facility. &#8211; Wikapedia<br />
 It is possible that someone named George (Forsythe, Tony) that has the passion, could buy the speeday. It is possible that some else could buy the speedway. It is possible that the fans (fanatics) could rally and help guide the future. I don&#8217;t know that the sisters will let us down or that someone with passion has the clout (Peter Windsor) or the money or both (Roger Pensky) could put a deal together. This is a question that makes us reflect on the very thing the speedway lives off of; tradition&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/should-the-sisters-sell/#comment-2683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AZZO,

I must have missed where I said that Indy stands are empty.  In fact, my point was that Indy is a phenomenal draw (both in attendance and television ratings) despite the fact that few other IRL races do well in either category.

My point is that the 500 is the only thing keeping the series afloat.  Most of the sponsors are in it for Indy  but the owners have to spread that money through 16 other races.  The Hulman family has to take their massive revenue from race day and blow it on running the other 16 events.  If they dumped the series the business of running the Indy 500 would suddenly be booming from a financial perspective.

If Indy sponsorship only had to cover 3 weeks of running in May there wouldn&#039;t be any need for ridiculous cost controls that took away the spirit and the intrigue of the event.  

As far as Nascar owners go... of course they don&#039;t have to run the whole season.  The only problem is that unless you do you simply cannot compete against the teams that do because you can&#039;t overcome the experience gap.  The difference between fielding a competitive car and a backmarker is a big deal to them.

Tiger Woods would never have participated in a long drive competition despite the fact that he is a far better golfer than the long drivers.  He just don&#039;t have the specific skill and experience required to win such an event.  Not only would he not want to look bad when he was beaten by the regulars... the fact that they beat him would damage his overall image and hurt his endorsements (not that he hasn&#039;t done that to himself).

Nascar guys love the fact that open wheel stars are embarrassed by driving in nascar.  Make no mistake that the owners know that they would look just as silly after a one off attempt at Indy versus the big guns.

If you eliminate the series.... things change in a big way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AZZO,</p>
<p>I must have missed where I said that Indy stands are empty.  In fact, my point was that Indy is a phenomenal draw (both in attendance and television ratings) despite the fact that few other IRL races do well in either category.</p>
<p>My point is that the 500 is the only thing keeping the series afloat.  Most of the sponsors are in it for Indy  but the owners have to spread that money through 16 other races.  The Hulman family has to take their massive revenue from race day and blow it on running the other 16 events.  If they dumped the series the business of running the Indy 500 would suddenly be booming from a financial perspective.</p>
<p>If Indy sponsorship only had to cover 3 weeks of running in May there wouldn&#8217;t be any need for ridiculous cost controls that took away the spirit and the intrigue of the event.  </p>
<p>As far as Nascar owners go&#8230; of course they don&#8217;t have to run the whole season.  The only problem is that unless you do you simply cannot compete against the teams that do because you can&#8217;t overcome the experience gap.  The difference between fielding a competitive car and a backmarker is a big deal to them.</p>
<p>Tiger Woods would never have participated in a long drive competition despite the fact that he is a far better golfer than the long drivers.  He just don&#8217;t have the specific skill and experience required to win such an event.  Not only would he not want to look bad when he was beaten by the regulars&#8230; the fact that they beat him would damage his overall image and hurt his endorsements (not that he hasn&#8217;t done that to himself).</p>
<p>Nascar guys love the fact that open wheel stars are embarrassed by driving in nascar.  Make no mistake that the owners know that they would look just as silly after a one off attempt at Indy versus the big guns.</p>
<p>If you eliminate the series&#8230;. things change in a big way.</p>
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		<title>By: MARS</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/should-the-sisters-sell/#comment-2682</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walt Disney World Speedway is a racing facility located on the grounds of the Walt Disney World resort near Orlando, Fl.

It was built in 1995 by IMS Events, Inc., a subsidiary of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Corporation, and was designed primarily as a venue for the Indy 200 at Walt Disney World, an Indy Racing League event. They actually had races there and it was too dangerous but that was before the safe barrier...Now you can do the Indy experience there but doubt that Disney would buy the brickyard when they already had the Mickyard.  When Sam Shmodt ws paralyzed they stopped racing  and have made a &quot;family friendly&quot; racing experience.
No one died on that track, but Disney is already doing the Indy-Petty race experience]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt Disney World Speedway is a racing facility located on the grounds of the Walt Disney World resort near Orlando, Fl.</p>
<p>It was built in 1995 by IMS Events, Inc., a subsidiary of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Corporation, and was designed primarily as a venue for the Indy 200 at Walt Disney World, an Indy Racing League event. They actually had races there and it was too dangerous but that was before the safe barrier&#8230;Now you can do the Indy experience there but doubt that Disney would buy the brickyard when they already had the Mickyard.  When Sam Shmodt ws paralyzed they stopped racing  and have made a &#8220;family friendly&#8221; racing experience.<br />
No one died on that track, but Disney is already doing the Indy-Petty race experience</p>
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		<title>By: MARS</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/should-the-sisters-sell/#comment-2681</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also the Disney-thing aleady failed for them. Death on the raetrack was not so appealing and Disney is in the family-friendly, business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also the Disney-thing aleady failed for them. Death on the raetrack was not so appealing and Disney is in the family-friendly, business.</p>
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		<title>By: MARS</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/should-the-sisters-sell/#comment-2680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MARS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Randy Bernard will know what to do but more and more it looks as if Scott is right.  (If there are 10k fans where are they all during this &quot;silly season?&quot;) There are just a handful of &quot;bloggers&quot; who are wondering, like George, what to expect in the future for this series.

(&quot;The Sisters&quot; deference has a negative tone BTW) and really as of late, it seems that they are very in touch with &quot;their reality.&quot;  The Team Owners  have a tougher job now and the transferring all of the negativity to &quot;the sisters.&quot;... well that is just kind of offensive in this economic melt-down.

Have to say that Scott makes sence, but when the economy turns around in ten years, maybe the race will be different.  The original Formula-one style with real engineering and real auto brands is still appealing. (The pinewood-derby model for cub-scouts is probably the straw that broke the camel&#039;s back for &quot;the sisters.&quot; Engineering innovation on the back of one or two highly skilled individuals is not an easy task...The &quot;bad news&quot; was really evident when Roger Penske walked away from Saturn...George is ROFL, but a new race car could have been viable then, with his manufacturer and under his leadership.  People aren&#039;t giving Roger this negative tone because he is a smart guy and I&#039;m sure that &quot;the sisters&quot; watch every business move he makes. No negativity there...just smart.  
The last few years have been tough on &quot;the  sisters&quot; as the finanial world has shrunk in half, so give them some credit for trying to &quot;manage.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy Bernard will know what to do but more and more it looks as if Scott is right.  (If there are 10k fans where are they all during this &#8220;silly season?&#8221;) There are just a handful of &#8220;bloggers&#8221; who are wondering, like George, what to expect in the future for this series.</p>
<p>(&#8220;The Sisters&#8221; deference has a negative tone BTW) and really as of late, it seems that they are very in touch with &#8220;their reality.&#8221;  The Team Owners  have a tougher job now and the transferring all of the negativity to &#8220;the sisters.&#8221;&#8230; well that is just kind of offensive in this economic melt-down.</p>
<p>Have to say that Scott makes sence, but when the economy turns around in ten years, maybe the race will be different.  The original Formula-one style with real engineering and real auto brands is still appealing. (The pinewood-derby model for cub-scouts is probably the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back for &#8220;the sisters.&#8221; Engineering innovation on the back of one or two highly skilled individuals is not an easy task&#8230;The &#8220;bad news&#8221; was really evident when Roger Penske walked away from Saturn&#8230;George is ROFL, but a new race car could have been viable then, with his manufacturer and under his leadership.  People aren&#8217;t giving Roger this negative tone because he is a smart guy and I&#8217;m sure that &#8220;the sisters&#8221; watch every business move he makes. No negativity there&#8230;just smart.<br />
The last few years have been tough on &#8220;the  sisters&#8221; as the finanial world has shrunk in half, so give them some credit for trying to &#8220;manage.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AZZO45</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/should-the-sisters-sell/#comment-2677</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Scott... I must have missed the five years in a row of the Indy 500 having 10,000 fans in the stands on race day.  I know IMS doesn&#039;t release official crowd numbers (on ANY of their events) but the 500 seems to have a full crowd on race day. :idea:

The Brickyard 400, USGP, &amp; the Moto GP events can not say that.

Also, if these NASCAR owners want to participate in the Indy 500 now or in the future... they are NOT required to run the full Indycar season   There are quite a few part-time &amp; Indy Only teams curently in the series :idea:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Scott&#8230; I must have missed the five years in a row of the Indy 500 having 10,000 fans in the stands on race day.  I know IMS doesn&#8217;t release official crowd numbers (on ANY of their events) but the 500 seems to have a full crowd on race day. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif' alt=':idea:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The Brickyard 400, USGP, &amp; the Moto GP events can not say that.</p>
<p>Also, if these NASCAR owners want to participate in the Indy 500 now or in the future&#8230; they are NOT required to run the full Indycar season   There are quite a few part-time &amp; Indy Only teams curently in the series <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif' alt=':idea:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://oilpressure.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/should-the-sisters-sell/#comment-2676</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The speedway would absolutely not be better off if they sold.

The Indycar series / IRL is dead.  It is floundering on life support provided by the 500 and the series is a massive anchor holding the Indy 500 down.

There aren&#039;t enough fans to support a series, but there are more than enough fans to support the 500.  If you remove the financial drain that the series puts on the family, servicing the debt is no longer an issue.

Furthermore, while the series cannot support multiple chassis and engine providers, the 500 could.  If they only had to build equipment that would last for the month of May and perhaps one other race in Long Beach the cost of running would drop tremendously while sponsorship interest would not change because most sponsors are primarily only interested in Indy anyway.  Even further, many Nascar drivers and OWNERS would be highly interested in participating in Indy if it did not require running a full season in order to gain the experience and technical knowledge necessary to be competitive.

If they let the series die today and opened the 2011 Indy as a fairly wide open spec race they would see an immediate change for the better in almost every way.  From there a new series could ORGANICALLY develop just as it did in the past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The speedway would absolutely not be better off if they sold.</p>
<p>The Indycar series / IRL is dead.  It is floundering on life support provided by the 500 and the series is a massive anchor holding the Indy 500 down.</p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t enough fans to support a series, but there are more than enough fans to support the 500.  If you remove the financial drain that the series puts on the family, servicing the debt is no longer an issue.</p>
<p>Furthermore, while the series cannot support multiple chassis and engine providers, the 500 could.  If they only had to build equipment that would last for the month of May and perhaps one other race in Long Beach the cost of running would drop tremendously while sponsorship interest would not change because most sponsors are primarily only interested in Indy anyway.  Even further, many Nascar drivers and OWNERS would be highly interested in participating in Indy if it did not require running a full season in order to gain the experience and technical knowledge necessary to be competitive.</p>
<p>If they let the series die today and opened the 2011 Indy as a fairly wide open spec race they would see an immediate change for the better in almost every way.  From there a new series could ORGANICALLY develop just as it did in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: MARS</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bankrupcy and restructuring &quot;the debt&quot; is always an option, can&#039;t see the Clabber Girls doing that.  
Maybe a Rodeo in the future, bull-riding and all!  
Can&#039;t wait for electric bulls at the Indy Rodeo!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bankrupcy and restructuring &#8220;the debt&#8221; is always an option, can&#8217;t see the Clabber Girls doing that.<br />
Maybe a Rodeo in the future, bull-riding and all!<br />
Can&#8217;t wait for electric bulls at the Indy Rodeo!</p>
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